The newest Matt CGs are found via Griffin's route, so you'll need to play through the club section to unlock them. The continuation of the night at Matt's place is coming in the next story update that I'm working on now 🙂
The writing is really good, you're juggling a couple different themes very adroitly. My only gripe is there's such more variety in cock/ball shapes/sizes... which is very silly and very gay of me to nitpick :)
I'm glad you like the writing! The similar dick shapes is due to me not knowing how to manipulate the penis asset I use when I first made the characters. I've been changing it up for the more recently created characters 🙂
The next story update will follow up with every storyline guy. I'm pretty sure what I have planned for Riley will keep you well fed 😉 I'm still working on the update but will post here when I have more concrete release info.
I've taken a hiatus in playing VNs and have only gotten back recently. Julian has always been my favorite character and I really enjoyed the frat party update. Thank you.
First, I want to say that I enjoyed playing the game. All the guys are handsome and the story around them are well written. The story around Julian was a total surprise for me. (And he was the hottest one in my opinion.) I have a weakness for well-built guys in sports outfits. Just look at Trevor :D and his college jacket.
Did somebody else find Wes intriguing? I like the style with the colored pink hair, the tattoos, and his sarcasm. I would at least like to spend more time with him and he is a dorm guy after all.
Can somebody help me out with the CGs Griffin 5? Maybe I am missing some Matt content? I am not sure here. Is the last one I am missing.
For Griffin's 5th CG, after Skinema performs, choose one of the dance options (either dance with Isaiah or dance solo). There might be other ways to unlock it, but that worked for me.
You know, I don't really see many comments about Wes, so I'm glad you find him intriguing. You'll have chances to spend time with all the dorm guys in some fashion, though most likely not one-on-one like the main characters.
You're in luck in regard to Trevor. There's a new feature coming soon that lets you unlock fantasy hookups with some side characters, with a new one coming between each story update. Trevor was just voted to be the second guy to get a hookup, so that'll be unlockable in a future update.
For that CG, dominozz has it right, but there's one additional requirement to unlock it. You need to spend your time after Alex's presentation with Griffin, then after the Skinema show choose to go dance solo or with Isaiah. Once you go downstairs, that CG will unlock.
I would love to, I just don't have the coding knowledge or funds to hire someone who does in order to do a port. But once I do, I'll make an Android version for sure, I just don't know how soon that'll be.
This is just a guess, but I think this might be a CG set which features all three guys (Alex, NC17, & Mafia). If the images you're missing for Alex are on the bottom row, this is the easiest way to find them:
Hang out with Alex in the afternoon after Will's class, then go to the club with him
Spend the evening with him, but when he propositions you after his fan pops up, turn him down
Leave the club and choose to go out the back exit
As you leave, you'll hear some interesting noises; go investigate
That'll unlock the CGs for all three of them. This isn't the only way to get the CGs; as long as you know the back exit exists and leave that way you can find it.
If those Alex CGs on the bottom row aren't the ones you're missing, let me know which ones that are and I can point you in the right direction.
I registered on this site to thank the author and creator of this novel for it, I honestly thought that I left my sincere and childish delight from reading the works and falling in love with the characters of these stories in childhood and early adolescence.I honestly admit that when I downloaded the novel, I judged it only by the pictures and showed interest only because of the sex screenshots, intending to skip the text and stare at the sex scenes......And what was my surprise when I started reading and just lost touch with reality for a few hours, having experienced a whole bunch of emotions of the story itself, that the long-forgotten children's delight from the magnificent characters who open up so beautifully and fall in love with themselves, even if they may not like it outwardly at first, or vice versa, catching on with their appearance, spoil the impression of themselves, Connor should get to know them closer (Yes, I'm talking about you Leo, you're sooo bad)I have opened less than half of all the content, but the three guys of this story have already irrevocably stolen my heart:Matt, because the story of really falling in love with my best friend is very close to me, and I think it's close to a lot of guys.Marco, who, frankly speaking, I didn't like at first, but a sex scene with him she revealed him to be an unexpectedly sweet and sensitive guy, which made me hesitate between him and Matt, but then a third guy came on the scene and just asked these two to hold his beer:-) Although it would most likely be some kind of herbal tea.I'm talking about Owen))))This guy........Uuuhhhh, why is he so perfect??)))My best friend was quite similar to him, he was not fond of auras, vibrations and perfumes, but his character of a sweet older brother, his soft and such a warm, pleasant charm made him just an amazing friend.Unfortunately, he has gone quite far away and due to some circumstances we cannot to keep in touch, but he was the best thing in my life and Owen reminds me very much of him, while having his own unique charm, just gorgeous appearance and excellent orientation)))The author, I want to tell you just an inexpressible thank you for such a work, for the second day I do not stop smiling and enjoying the emotions received and the reader's concern for Connor's relationship and his fate as a whole.Now my meaning of life is to see the romantic line between Matt and Connor.......Or Owen and Connor (I'm telling you, these guys stole my heart and I'm at a loss who, the first one give it away).I wholeheartedly wish you talent, attitude and desire to continue this wonderful story, and of course favorable circumstances.Once again, thank you very much for the children's delight and emotions experienced again.Sincerely Pavel
Oh wow, thank you so much for all of your kind words! It's wonderful to read that you connected so much to some of the characters and got to relive your younger years playing through the story. I'm sure there are plenty of players who just skip to the hookup CGs, which is valid—I make them sexy for a reason 😉 But knowing that others are coming for the hot pictures and end up getting captured by the story itself is so gratifying and humbling.
I have so much romantic content planned alongside the steamy CGs, and I'm working as fast I can to let you develop your relationships with guys like Owen soon. I think it'll be worth the wait 🙂
Well, I finished going through all the available content, and frankly I thought that no one else could shake the throne of the main favorite on which Owen sat, how wrong I was :-).............To be honest, I'm even kind of embarrassed in front of myself that I'm so fickle in choosing favorites, but Griffin..........Not only is this guy just extremely cute (and he is the only one who does not lose a single gram of his appearance on the arts, but looks even more beautiful), his moral component is so thoroughly worked out that....I just don't have the words.I think he would be perfect without exaggeration a villain with a gray morality and ambiguous decisions, in works where the authors would like to see the reader's sympathy on the side of such a villain or in stories where such a character would lure a banal kind and bright GG (Main Character) to his side.In Griffin, charm mixed with danger is so masterfully embodied, and at the same time he is sweet, friendly and adult.....I just don't have enough words to fully express how much I liked and fascinated this character.To be honest, against the background of such literally amazing guys, Matt somehow fades, usually a romantic line with the best my friend has always been the most expected and popular for me, but in this story, mainly Griffin, followed by Owen, pushed poor Matt into the second, or rather the third plan.I just wrote an enthusiastic tirade yesterday about the story itself and a few guys, but Griffin.....Personally, in my opinion, he is now the best of the guys represented and dominates them completely.As a teenager, I was very much in love with the vampire Edward from Twilight for a long time (Robert Pattinson, you are in my heart forever).But now, being an adult, albeit a young guy, 23 years old, I am very firmly and no less for a long time fell in love with Griffin.It looks like the walls of my bedroom will again be hung with art, drawings and screenshots of a fictional guy I fell head over heels in love with)))))))Author, thank you for this!!!)
This is awesome to read. Griffin was the last main character introduced, so it took me a little bit to find his "voice." Once I did, I really enjoyed writing his storyline. His story is designed to be alluring but confusing, especially since he and Connor had and are having such different life experiences. The gray morality "villain" archetype is definitely part of him, but not all of him, which it seems you discovered. I'm really looking forward to seeing how people react as his story continues...
I'm very interested in what the interaction between Owen and Griffin would look like)Griffin, despite all the friendly nature, is clearly dangerous as hell if you start digging into his soul.Judging by what he said, he was clearly treated very badly in 21SA, it is quite possible that this is somehow connected with the professionals, which is why it hurts him very much, well, this is clearly not his only secret and pain.And Owen is perfectly able to read people, thanks to his experience with auras and vibrations, but judging by how he tried to find sex for Connor, he lacks tact and, in general, brakes when talking.And that's why I would really like to see the interaction these two, what kind of atmosphere could develop between them)How Griffin would slow down Owen, and how much he could see the darkness in his soul, and perhaps warn Connor.Still, considering that Griffin likes to tell, albeit superficial, but compromising evidence on students, it would be honest and interesting if Owen applied this to him.And by the way I wanted to ask:What will a relationship with him look like at all?All this polygamy and belief in free love, plus Julian, who I think will be completely unhappy that Connor got close to Owen?I think it would be interesting if Connor could bring some characters are related to each other, for example Matt and Griffin, who are clearly combined with each other and there is a fair chemistry between them, or Owen and Julian, who with his "naturalness" just hangs around Owen's neck as a free client of a psychotherapist.I apologize for the big comments, it's just that this novel gave me a real spiritual youth and enthusiasm)
It would be interesting to see Griffin and Owen together for sure since they have such different vibes but aren't necessarily dissimilar in other ways. Griffin is older than Owen and a bit savvier and more cynical, but he might be charmed by Owen's friendliness like he's charmed by Connor.
I don't have any romances that are more than two people solely because it'd be very hard to keep track of writing-wise and especially coding-wise. However, some guys will want to be strictly monogamous, others have an open relationship, and others somewhere in-between. So if you romance Owen, there won't be an option to add Julian as a third romantic partner, but Julian could perhaps fit in other ways.
I do have some romances planned between characters if Connor doesn't romance them or spend much time with them. Interestingly, not Matt & Griffin or Matt & Leo, but I do have someone Matt will romance if Connor doesn't go for either of them. I'll leave that a secret for now...
Hey Danny! I seriously fell in love with this game and look forward to the next update.
In the meantime, I wanted to know: what are your thoughts on a fan-made wiki/encyclopedia, similar to the Coming Out On Top Wiki? (I envision pages primarily containing paragraphs on characters' appearance, background, relationships with other characters, and a general guide for unlocking CGs similar to how you address CG questions in this comment section, but not including exact dialogue or as many in-game screenshots as the COOT Wiki, though that's my personal approach).
I love making/contributing to wikis and can't get enough of this game. Let me know what your thoughts are, and whether you have any reservations or if you're supportive of this idea. TIA!
Hey there! I would be incredibly flattered to have an unofficial Wiki made for the game. I have zero reservations, so if that's something you'd like to do, you can absolutely feel free.
I'm just loving everything about this game!
Whoever you are, dev/creator, I love you man!
I was already tired of games like this with uninteresting
characters and only bottom protagonists.
Your game has so many interesting characters that it is
difficult to choose one to follow the game.
I'm super excited to see what the Updates will be like.
Congratulations on the incredible work
Thank you so much 🙂 Doing everything solo means it takes a little longer than I'd like to get updates out, but I'm working diligently to keep the story going. And Connor will have his choice of position - I thought it'd be way too limiting to make him just a bottom!
I don't mind waiting a few months if it means an update with top-notch content, something your game certainly already has!
I really like how you developed the characters very well, Riley actually looks a lot like my ex, so I'm a little obsessed with him, and the fact that he's also a bottom makes everything better lol.
I'm really excited for the update whenever it comes. I hope with more scenes with Riley ;)
Typically not a fan of games with this art style/visual novels but I'm so glad I tried this one. It quickly became one of my favorite NSFW games if not my all time favorite. All the characters feel really fleshed out for this being pretty early in development, all the characters genuinely felt different personality wise. Consent is also handled amazingly in this game, even having an ending (currently) where there's absolutely no sexual scenes at all. Tons of replicability that I actually wanted to enjoy due to overall enjoyable characters (Personal favorite was riley)
Cannot wait for future updates and hopefully a discord server.
So glad you like it! I'm definitely aiming to handle consent carefully, I'm glad that's noticed 🙂 I may make a Discord server soon, if I do I'll make an announcement on here.
Hey, I'm glad you like it 🙂 The main thing you need is Ren'Py, which is free. It's the program that streamlines making a game like this. For the actual coding I use VSCode, which is also free. Art is made via Daz 3D, which is free but you need to find/buy assets to make anything substantial. And I do post-processing for the images in GIMP, which is basically free Photoshop. There's lots of tutorials on YouTube for all of these programs.
The next story update will have more Riley to follow up on what can happen at the party. The update being worked on now is a smaller, interstitial update that revises 300+ CGs and an unlockable bonus hookup, to tide us over until the story update is done.
So basically: New You Update is next adding new CGs and a hookup, followed by Morning After Update that'll continue Riley and everyone else's stories. No firm release date for either yet.
All of Matt's new CGs can be found by playing through the Griffin storyline. He'll signpost when you can unlock those, but to be specific: say yes to watching a certain video and later on ask about what Matt likes to do in bed.
I'm not currently able to do a mobile port. I would like to in the future, but it'll depend on when I have enough funds to hire someone to help me. So no ETA on that at the moment.
Hey there! I downloaded this game before the club update, I just wanted to ask how do I update the game without deleting/erasing the old version's data? (sorry im new to itch.io heh)
Your saves and persistent data like gallery unlocks are saved separately on your computer from the game files. You can delete the old game folder with the prior version and download the new one. When you launch the new version, you'll be able to load your existing saves.
Hello there, I downloaded and played the game, and want to say that this game is really good! the writing feels very natural and well done for each character, all the guys are very hot and their personalities are well portrayed. I'm really invested!
Riley is exclusively a bottom, but if your Connor is as well, I'll have some options for how to work around that when hooking up. Only one other person has a strict position preference. Everyone else is verse.
*sorry if this is a late question to ask* but if Riley a bottom and the player Connor is a verse will the player have the option to let Riley top or is it locked behind bottom Connor? *also if you don't mind saying who the other person that has a strict position :)*
Riley won't top but I'm planning to add top-adjacent stuff with the two of you using toys. I won't lock anything behind Connor's preferences, so if you play as a bottom most of the game that doesn't mean you can't still top if you want to.
The other person with a strict preference is Isaiah, who's top-only. I should add it's entirely possible that as I write I'll change these two to not be so strict with their preferences, but that's the plan right now.
Thanks for the details! This is the error mentioned under "Troubleshooting" in the dev log post. It's the game not recognizing newly added choice flags and invalidating that particular save. The only way I know to fix it is to start a new game and skip forward to the point you left off. It's a pain, but unfortunately happens since this is an in-development game. Skipping through usually only takes a minute or two, thankfully, you'll just need to click your choices again.
awesome thank you I didn’t see the troubleshooting part. Makes sense indeed, wasn’t sure if you were aware to it. Just glad it’s a simple and known thing.
Not right now. I don't have the funds to hire anyone. If that changes in the future, there are definitely aspects of development I'd like to hand off to others.
No, Griffin is romanceable on his own, but his relationship with Matt may complicate things between him and Connor or Connor and Matt. Because it wouldn't be a good story without some drama 😉
You can indeed! I'm releasing updates episodically, adding new content once a significant amount of story is finished. Between story drops I'm adding smaller updates that let you unlock a hookup scenario with a side character. The first of those will be in the next update I drop.
had to come here and say big fan of the work ur doin so far and a big fan of the guys*Riley and Marco are my favs so far* I do have a question tho will we see content for thomas and will next update?
I'm glad your enjoying it 🙂 This next update takes place at the club and follows Alex, Asher, Isaiah, and a new character named Griffin, so it primarily revolves around them.
Will, Tomas, and everyone else will come back in the story update following the one coming out shortly. I'll be sharing more details soon, but basically after the club update there will be a smaller update that adds a new version of Connor plus an unlockable hookup scene, and then after that will come the story update that follows up on your choices made at the end of your first day of school.
Will in particular has some pretty great content coming in that update, so I'm going to work hard to make sure you guys don't need to wait too long to play it!
No hookup with Connor, but you can find a bunch of CGs of Matt that are very revealing... some of which are also very, very explicit.
Romance-wise, if you talk to the bartender, you can also learn a whole lot more about what Matt's been up to the past year, which will unlock a bunch of dialogue choices the next time you talk to him.
Storywise not for a little while. But there will be hookup-adjacent stuff before then. First time will be waking up the morning after hanging out with Matt & Leo if you slept at their apartment, either by passing out or by hooking up with Leo, which is coming fairly soon.
New updates are released for free four weeks after going into early access on Patreon. I'm about to release a new update within the next few days, so that means there'll be a new free update in a month or so. I'll post a release schedule with specific dates once the early access version is released.
Absolutely there will be! All of the main characters - everyone who got introduced with a title card - will have a storyline to follow throughout the game 🙂
I was holding off in playing this game until it was completed because I knew it was going to be so good that it would agonize me to wait for it to be completed but I just couldn't help myself anymore. Why am I so weak to fine ass men, lawd help me!
Unsurprisingly, this was a great game! Despite being incomplete and in-progress this game quenches thirst wielding its diverse cast of characters and unique scenarios. At the helm of the story, the main character is charming, relatable, and magnetic (I can see why all these guys are lining up for him). The CGs are all top notch paired with writing that flows naturally from scene to scene avoiding jarring moments for its players/audience. With further development, possibly music and polishing of current in-game mechanics this can cement itself as an iconic gay game!
Thank you FreshmenVN for continuing to develop this game!
Two questions though, I am immediately charmed by Matt and Connor's unique synergy. I can't help but envision them as my canon ship in the game. I believe the slow-burning tension is what you intend between them but if I may ask if there is any upcoming scenes between them in the rest following updates? As a follow up, will every character be romanceable or are there some that are just going to stay as hook-up option?
Again, thank you so much for this game! Lots of love and hoping for a smooth development on your end.
Thank you so much for the compliments! I'm glad the guys were able to lure you in 😉
It'll be a long while before the game is 100% complete, so I'm writing & releasing the game episodically. Each new story update will have a significant amount of content moving the storylines along. I'm working to quicken the pace so we won't have to wait as long to find out what happens next!
Matt & Connor's story is a little bit of a slow burn, but you'll definitely have plenty of opportunities to have scenes with him before it boils over into a full romance or hookup situation.
Right now I'm finishing up the club sequence that rounds out the last of the three options for ending day 2. But afterward will be a "morning after" update exploring what results from your choices. If you sleep at Matt's place - whether by passing out drunk or hooking up with Leo - you'll get some very interesting scenes with Matt when you both wake up. I'll just go ahead and spoil that he'll be in his underwear throughout 😉
Even if you didn't spend the night, you'll be able to follow up with him via text, tell each other about what you got up to, and arrange to hang out more. After this point the game is divided into weeks, and each week the main story guys will have some sort of hangout option.
Not all the guys are romanceable. There are 9 romanceable characters. 8 you've already met. You may have briefly met the 9th character if you played Asher's storyline, but that character will become more prominent in the next update I'm releasing. Matt won't technically be in this next update, but this 9th character - Griffin - has some interesting ties to Matt and you can unlock a bunch of new, very revealing Matt CGs by hanging with him.
All of the guys who got title cards introducing them are considered main characters to some degree and will have storylines to follow throughout the game. The ones who aren't romanceable are able to be hooked up with. I may turn one or two of them into romance options as I write, but I don't know for sure yet.
Lastly, there are a bunch of side characters in this game who aren't romanceable and won't have detailed storylines but who may end up with their own non-canon hookup scenario. Basically, as you meet new guys, some will unlock a hookup scenario on the main menu - that's what the "coming soon" Grind'm feature is. I plan to drop one new Grind'm hookup between each story update to tide us over until the main stories continue on.
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The newest Matt CGs are found via Griffin's route, so you'll need to play through the club section to unlock them. The continuation of the night at Matt's place is coming in the next story update that I'm working on now 🙂
The writing is really good, you're juggling a couple different themes very adroitly. My only gripe is there's such more variety in cock/ball shapes/sizes... which is very silly and very gay of me to nitpick :)
I'm glad you like the writing! The similar dick shapes is due to me not knowing how to manipulate the penis asset I use when I first made the characters. I've been changing it up for the more recently created characters 🙂
So who's the most popular guy among the fans so far?
Matt & Riley tend to be the guys I see most people comment about.
But Marcoooo! The puppy nickname is just too cute!☺️
I like Marco too! I think hooking up with your college roommate is a recipe for disaster. But! I'm all in on this fantasy though.
It's a good thing it's a game right? In real life, I'm sure hooking up with your roommate would give you a lot of drama😆
Whens the next riley update riley lovers are starvinggg
The next story update will follow up with every storyline guy. I'm pretty sure what I have planned for Riley will keep you well fed 😉 I'm still working on the update but will post here when I have more concrete release info.
I've taken a hiatus in playing VNs and have only gotten back recently. Julian has always been my favorite character and I really enjoyed the frat party update. Thank you.
I'm glad you enjoyed it 🙂
I dont care for excuses but I need tha goddam guide for the CGs
Man this is amazing good writing and all. I can't wait to see what's ahead. and wow Evan is really cute I hope seeing more of him in the future
Thanks 🙂 You'll definitely see more Evan, especially if you slept at the frat house...
oooh nice, can't wait ☺️☺️. I did go to the party but I get home. well time to replay.
First, I want to say that I enjoyed playing the game. All the guys are handsome and the story around them are well written. The story around Julian was a total surprise for me. (And he was the hottest one in my opinion.) I have a weakness for well-built guys in sports outfits. Just look at Trevor :D and his college jacket.
Did somebody else find Wes intriguing? I like the style with the colored pink hair, the tattoos, and his sarcasm. I would at least like to spend more time with him and he is a dorm guy after all.
Can somebody help me out with the CGs Griffin 5? Maybe I am missing some Matt content? I am not sure here. Is the last one I am missing.
For Griffin's 5th CG, after Skinema performs, choose one of the dance options (either dance with Isaiah or dance solo). There might be other ways to unlock it, but that worked for me.
You know, I don't really see many comments about Wes, so I'm glad you find him intriguing. You'll have chances to spend time with all the dorm guys in some fashion, though most likely not one-on-one like the main characters.
You're in luck in regard to Trevor. There's a new feature coming soon that lets you unlock fantasy hookups with some side characters, with a new one coming between each story update. Trevor was just voted to be the second guy to get a hookup, so that'll be unlockable in a future update.
For that CG, dominozz has it right, but there's one additional requirement to unlock it. You need to spend your time after Alex's presentation with Griffin, then after the Skinema show choose to go dance solo or with Isaiah. Once you go downstairs, that CG will unlock.
Thanks a lot. It worked out :).
Do you plan to make this game for Android too, I played a little on my computer but even my microwave is more powerful than that🤣🤣
I would love to, I just don't have the coding knowledge or funds to hire someone who does in order to do a port. But once I do, I'll make an Android version for sure, I just don't know how soon that'll be.
how do i unlock matt,NC's and alex cgs omg it just says to be continued despite all the cgs im missing
ok i found out matts..
This is just a guess, but I think this might be a CG set which features all three guys (Alex, NC17, & Mafia). If the images you're missing for Alex are on the bottom row, this is the easiest way to find them:
That'll unlock the CGs for all three of them. This isn't the only way to get the CGs; as long as you know the back exit exists and leave that way you can find it.
If those Alex CGs on the bottom row aren't the ones you're missing, let me know which ones that are and I can point you in the right direction.
I registered on this site to thank the author and creator of this novel for it, I honestly thought that I left my sincere and childish delight from reading the works and falling in love with the characters of these stories in childhood and early adolescence.I honestly admit that when I downloaded the novel, I judged it only by the pictures and showed interest only because of the sex screenshots, intending to skip the text and stare at the sex scenes......And what was my surprise when I started reading and just lost touch with reality for a few hours, having experienced a whole bunch of emotions of the story itself, that the long-forgotten children's delight from the magnificent characters who open up so beautifully and fall in love with themselves, even if they may not like it outwardly at first, or vice versa, catching on with their appearance, spoil the impression of themselves, Connor should get to know them closer (Yes, I'm talking about you Leo, you're sooo bad)I have opened less than half of all the content, but the three guys of this story have already irrevocably stolen my heart:Matt, because the story of really falling in love with my best friend is very close to me, and I think it's close to a lot of guys.Marco, who, frankly speaking, I didn't like at first, but a sex scene with him she revealed him to be an unexpectedly sweet and sensitive guy, which made me hesitate between him and Matt, but then a third guy came on the scene and just asked these two to hold his beer:-) Although it would most likely be some kind of herbal tea.I'm talking about Owen))))This guy........Uuuhhhh, why is he so perfect??)))My best friend was quite similar to him, he was not fond of auras, vibrations and perfumes, but his character of a sweet older brother, his soft and such a warm, pleasant charm made him just an amazing friend.Unfortunately, he has gone quite far away and due to some circumstances we cannot to keep in touch, but he was the best thing in my life and Owen reminds me very much of him, while having his own unique charm, just gorgeous appearance and excellent orientation)))The author, I want to tell you just an inexpressible thank you for such a work, for the second day I do not stop smiling and enjoying the emotions received and the reader's concern for Connor's relationship and his fate as a whole.Now my meaning of life is to see the romantic line between Matt and Connor.......Or Owen and Connor (I'm telling you, these guys stole my heart and I'm at a loss who, the first one give it away).I wholeheartedly wish you talent, attitude and desire to continue this wonderful story, and of course favorable circumstances.Once again, thank you very much for the children's delight and emotions experienced again.Sincerely Pavel
Oh wow, thank you so much for all of your kind words! It's wonderful to read that you connected so much to some of the characters and got to relive your younger years playing through the story. I'm sure there are plenty of players who just skip to the hookup CGs, which is valid—I make them sexy for a reason 😉 But knowing that others are coming for the hot pictures and end up getting captured by the story itself is so gratifying and humbling.
I have so much romantic content planned alongside the steamy CGs, and I'm working as fast I can to let you develop your relationships with guys like Owen soon. I think it'll be worth the wait 🙂
Well, I finished going through all the available content, and frankly I thought that no one else could shake the throne of the main favorite on which Owen sat, how wrong I was :-).............To be honest, I'm even kind of embarrassed in front of myself that I'm so fickle in choosing favorites, but Griffin..........Not only is this guy just extremely cute (and he is the only one who does not lose a single gram of his appearance on the arts, but looks even more beautiful), his moral component is so thoroughly worked out that....I just don't have the words.I think he would be perfect without exaggeration a villain with a gray morality and ambiguous decisions, in works where the authors would like to see the reader's sympathy on the side of such a villain or in stories where such a character would lure a banal kind and bright GG (Main Character) to his side.In Griffin, charm mixed with danger is so masterfully embodied, and at the same time he is sweet, friendly and adult.....I just don't have enough words to fully express how much I liked and fascinated this character.To be honest, against the background of such literally amazing guys, Matt somehow fades, usually a romantic line with the best my friend has always been the most expected and popular for me, but in this story, mainly Griffin, followed by Owen, pushed poor Matt into the second, or rather the third plan.I just wrote an enthusiastic tirade yesterday about the story itself and a few guys, but Griffin.....Personally, in my opinion, he is now the best of the guys represented and dominates them completely.As a teenager, I was very much in love with the vampire Edward from Twilight for a long time (Robert Pattinson, you are in my heart forever).But now, being an adult, albeit a young guy, 23 years old, I am very firmly and no less for a long time fell in love with Griffin.It looks like the walls of my bedroom will again be hung with art, drawings and screenshots of a fictional guy I fell head over heels in love with)))))))Author, thank you for this!!!)
This is awesome to read. Griffin was the last main character introduced, so it took me a little bit to find his "voice." Once I did, I really enjoyed writing his storyline. His story is designed to be alluring but confusing, especially since he and Connor had and are having such different life experiences. The gray morality "villain" archetype is definitely part of him, but not all of him, which it seems you discovered. I'm really looking forward to seeing how people react as his story continues...
I'm very interested in what the interaction between Owen and Griffin would look like)Griffin, despite all the friendly nature, is clearly dangerous as hell if you start digging into his soul.Judging by what he said, he was clearly treated very badly in 21SA, it is quite possible that this is somehow connected with the professionals, which is why it hurts him very much, well, this is clearly not his only secret and pain.And Owen is perfectly able to read people, thanks to his experience with auras and vibrations, but judging by how he tried to find sex for Connor, he lacks tact and, in general, brakes when talking.And that's why I would really like to see the interaction these two, what kind of atmosphere could develop between them)How Griffin would slow down Owen, and how much he could see the darkness in his soul, and perhaps warn Connor.Still, considering that Griffin likes to tell, albeit superficial, but compromising evidence on students, it would be honest and interesting if Owen applied this to him.And by the way I wanted to ask:What will a relationship with him look like at all?All this polygamy and belief in free love, plus Julian, who I think will be completely unhappy that Connor got close to Owen?I think it would be interesting if Connor could bring some characters are related to each other, for example Matt and Griffin, who are clearly combined with each other and there is a fair chemistry between them, or Owen and Julian, who with his "naturalness" just hangs around Owen's neck as a free client of a psychotherapist.I apologize for the big comments, it's just that this novel gave me a real spiritual youth and enthusiasm)
It would be interesting to see Griffin and Owen together for sure since they have such different vibes but aren't necessarily dissimilar in other ways. Griffin is older than Owen and a bit savvier and more cynical, but he might be charmed by Owen's friendliness like he's charmed by Connor.
I don't have any romances that are more than two people solely because it'd be very hard to keep track of writing-wise and especially coding-wise. However, some guys will want to be strictly monogamous, others have an open relationship, and others somewhere in-between. So if you romance Owen, there won't be an option to add Julian as a third romantic partner, but Julian could perhaps fit in other ways.
I do have some romances planned between characters if Connor doesn't romance them or spend much time with them. Interestingly, not Matt & Griffin or Matt & Leo, but I do have someone Matt will romance if Connor doesn't go for either of them. I'll leave that a secret for now...
Hey Danny! I seriously fell in love with this game and look forward to the next update.
In the meantime, I wanted to know: what are your thoughts on a fan-made wiki/encyclopedia, similar to the Coming Out On Top Wiki? (I envision pages primarily containing paragraphs on characters' appearance, background, relationships with other characters, and a general guide for unlocking CGs similar to how you address CG questions in this comment section, but not including exact dialogue or as many in-game screenshots as the COOT Wiki, though that's my personal approach).
I love making/contributing to wikis and can't get enough of this game. Let me know what your thoughts are, and whether you have any reservations or if you're supportive of this idea. TIA!
Hey there! I would be incredibly flattered to have an unofficial Wiki made for the game. I have zero reservations, so if that's something you'd like to do, you can absolutely feel free.
Wonderful, thank you! I've gotten a few pages started, though it's currently mostly a skeleton. If you're curious about the progress, here's the link.
This looks awesome, I love it! If you want a head start for updating to the new version of Connor, here's his standard Day 2 sprite:
And the new version of the CG used for his bio page:
It looks great, to such a large and elaborate game, Wiki will be an indispensable addition, thank you so much for your idea, and work)
Does anyone know how to unlock matt CG´s? Im stuck :(
I can guide you in the right direction. Which ones are you missing?
Are you able to romance nc17?
NC is a hookup-only character. He's definitely not got romance on the mind at this point in his life, haha.
Thank you so much 🙂 Doing everything solo means it takes a little longer than I'd like to get updates out, but I'm working diligently to keep the story going. And Connor will have his choice of position - I thought it'd be way too limiting to make him just a bottom!
I don't mind waiting a few months if it means an update with top-notch content, something your game certainly already has!
I really like how you developed the characters very well, Riley actually looks a lot like my ex, so I'm a little obsessed with him, and the fact that he's also a bottom makes everything better lol.
I'm really excited for the update whenever it comes. I hope with more scenes with Riley ;)
There'll definitely be some fun Riley content in the next story update 🙂 Especially if you made it to the makeout scene...
Typically not a fan of games with this art style/visual novels but I'm so glad I tried this one.
It quickly became one of my favorite NSFW games if not my all time favorite.
All the characters feel really fleshed out for this being pretty early in development, all the characters genuinely felt different personality wise.
Consent is also handled amazingly in this game, even having an ending (currently) where there's absolutely no sexual scenes at all.
Tons of replicability that I actually wanted to enjoy due to overall enjoyable characters (Personal favorite was riley)
Cannot wait for future updates and hopefully a discord server.
So glad you like it! I'm definitely aiming to handle consent carefully, I'm glad that's noticed 🙂 I may make a Discord server soon, if I do I'll make an announcement on here.
Hey, I'm glad you like it 🙂 The main thing you need is Ren'Py, which is free. It's the program that streamlines making a game like this. For the actual coding I use VSCode, which is also free. Art is made via Daz 3D, which is free but you need to find/buy assets to make anything substantial. And I do post-processing for the images in GIMP, which is basically free Photoshop. There's lots of tutorials on YouTube for all of these programs.
Any plans to eventually have voice actors for the characters?
I would love that, but it wouldn't be until somewhere far down the line when most of the game is written and I have funds to hire VAs.
When is the next riley update?
The next story update will have more Riley to follow up on what can happen at the party. The update being worked on now is a smaller, interstitial update that revises 300+ CGs and an unlockable bonus hookup, to tide us over until the story update is done.
So basically: New You Update is next adding new CGs and a hookup, followed by Morning After Update that'll continue Riley and everyone else's stories. No firm release date for either yet.
I'm having a little trouble getting the new Matt CGs, his seem to be the only ones I'm struggling with...any advice?
All of Matt's new CGs can be found by playing through the Griffin storyline. He'll signpost when you can unlock those, but to be specific: say yes to watching a certain video and later on ask about what Matt likes to do in bed.
hiii i was wondering when you were making an android version of the new update?
I'm not currently able to do a mobile port. I would like to in the future, but it'll depend on when I have enough funds to hire someone to help me. So no ETA on that at the moment.
Hey there! I downloaded this game before the club update, I just wanted to ask how do I update the game without deleting/erasing the old version's data? (sorry im new to itch.io heh)
Your saves and persistent data like gallery unlocks are saved separately on your computer from the game files. You can delete the old game folder with the prior version and download the new one. When you launch the new version, you'll be able to load your existing saves.
alright!! thank you so much!
Hello there, I downloaded and played the game, and want to say that this game is really good! the writing feels very natural and well done for each character, all the guys are very hot and their personalities are well portrayed. I'm really invested!
I'm so glad you're enjoying it 🙂
There currently isn't a mobile port, though I plan to do one down the line when I'm able to afford help making one.
I currently play it with JoiPlay and works fine. Although android port would be appreciated. You can substitute it for now.
How??
can Riley be a top?
Riley is exclusively a bottom, but if your Connor is as well, I'll have some options for how to work around that when hooking up. Only one other person has a strict position preference. Everyone else is verse.
*sorry if this is a late question to ask* but if Riley a bottom and the player Connor is a verse will the player have the option to let Riley top or is it locked behind bottom Connor? *also if you don't mind saying who the other person that has a strict position :)*
Riley won't top but I'm planning to add top-adjacent stuff with the two of you using toys. I won't lock anything behind Connor's preferences, so if you play as a bottom most of the game that doesn't mean you can't still top if you want to.
The other person with a strict preference is Isaiah, who's top-only. I should add it's entirely possible that as I write I'll change these two to not be so strict with their preferences, but that's the plan right now.
Hey i keep getting a error as soon as i get into the club. I can send you what its doing if you would like.
Sure, what does the error say?
```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "game/scriptD2.rpy", line 93845, in script
if club_greeting_alex_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_asher_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_griffin_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_isaiah_exhausted_d2:
File "game/scriptD2.rpy", line 93845, in <module>
if club_greeting_alex_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_asher_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_griffin_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_isaiah_exhausted_d2:
NameError: name 'club_greeting_alex_exhausted_d2' is not defined
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/scriptD2.rpy", line 93845, in script
if club_greeting_alex_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_asher_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_griffin_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_isaiah_exhausted_d2:
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1893, in execute
if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
File "renpy/python.py", line 2266, in py_eval
return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2259, in py_eval_bytecode
return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/scriptD2.rpy", line 93845, in <module>
if club_greeting_alex_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_asher_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_griffin_exhausted_d2 and club_greeting_isaiah_exhausted_d2:
NameError: name 'club_greeting_alex_exhausted_d2' is not defined
Windows-10-10.0.22621
Ren'Py 7.4.8.1895
Freshmen Physical Education 0.2.0
Tue Aug 22 09:04:10 2023
```
Thanks for the details! This is the error mentioned under "Troubleshooting" in the dev log post. It's the game not recognizing newly added choice flags and invalidating that particular save. The only way I know to fix it is to start a new game and skip forward to the point you left off. It's a pain, but unfortunately happens since this is an in-development game. Skipping through usually only takes a minute or two, thankfully, you'll just need to click your choices again.
awesome thank you I didn’t see the troubleshooting part. Makes sense indeed, wasn’t sure if you were aware to it. Just glad it’s a simple and known thing.
what program do you use to make the characthers?
I use Daz 3D.
Any plans to have a team to work on the game with you?
Not right now. I don't have the funds to hire anyone. If that changes in the future, there are definitely aspects of development I'd like to hand off to others.
Hi, is there any chance you can translate the game to Portuguese someday? I really wanted to play but I don't speak English
I would love to do translations somewhere down the line. It's not something I have the budget for right now, unfortunately.
I send a direct message on Instagram. Can you help me?
Sure, I just DMed back 🙂
Are we having more action with Julian please 🥵
There will be more action with everyone as the game develops, don't worry 🙂
Well I'm not saying that the new colours for this page are hurting my eyes...
so what about griffin? his option has ties with matt--- so is he a polyamorous love interest? only unlock with matt?
No, Griffin is romanceable on his own, but his relationship with Matt may complicate things between him and Connor or Connor and Matt. Because it wouldn't be a good story without some drama 😉
great i love drama...is there going to be a threesome scene?
Yes, the game will have threesomes, but I don't know yet if there will be one with Matt & Griffin. Does seem like an obvious choice though... 🤔
Already downloaded the update on Patreon! Thanks for the head's up here!
May I ask, is developing this game your full-time occupation or just something you do on the side will having another job?
When I first started it was something on the side, but I'm fortunate to now be able to work on it full time.
That's amazing to hear, because we can expect a lot more updates for this VN in the long run, right?
You can indeed! I'm releasing updates episodically, adding new content once a significant amount of story is finished. Between story drops I'm adding smaller updates that let you unlock a hookup scenario with a side character. The first of those will be in the next update I drop.
had to come here and say big fan of the work ur doin so far and a big fan of the guys*Riley and Marco are my favs so far* I do have a question tho will we see content for thomas and will next update?
I'm glad your enjoying it 🙂 This next update takes place at the club and follows Alex, Asher, Isaiah, and a new character named Griffin, so it primarily revolves around them.
Will, Tomas, and everyone else will come back in the story update following the one coming out shortly. I'll be sharing more details soon, but basically after the club update there will be a smaller update that adds a new version of Connor plus an unlockable hookup scene, and then after that will come the story update that follows up on your choices made at the end of your first day of school.
Will in particular has some pretty great content coming in that update, so I'm going to work hard to make sure you guys don't need to wait too long to play it!
looking forward to it keep up the amazing work!
is there going to be matt hookup/romance in next update?
No hookup with Connor, but you can find a bunch of CGs of Matt that are very revealing... some of which are also very, very explicit.
Romance-wise, if you talk to the bartender, you can also learn a whole lot more about what Matt's been up to the past year, which will unlock a bunch of dialogue choices the next time you talk to him.
ok. so when we get hookup option with matt?, he is my favorite.
Storywise not for a little while. But there will be hookup-adjacent stuff before then. First time will be waking up the morning after hanging out with Matt & Leo if you slept at their apartment, either by passing out or by hooking up with Leo, which is coming fairly soon.
Is there anymore free updates of the game or is it only accessible through patreon?
New updates are released for free four weeks after going into early access on Patreon. I'm about to release a new update within the next few days, so that means there'll be a new free update in a month or so. I'll post a release schedule with specific dates once the early access version is released.
Hey, ik you've said he's not one of the romanceable characters, but will there be more content available with Julian?
Absolutely there will be! All of the main characters - everyone who got introduced with a title card - will have a storyline to follow throughout the game 🙂
I actually just posted a new high-res image I made of him on Instagram, you can check it out here: https://www.instagram.com/freshmenvn/
AWWWW... can't wait to PLAY more of Asher's in the club & DATE w him!!!
LOVE him sooo much from inside & out!!!
and thank u for making this, GJ!!!
You're welcome, I'm glad you like it 🙂 I hope you like Asher's story when you get to play it soon!
I was holding off in playing this game until it was completed because I knew it was going to be so good that it would agonize me to wait for it to be completed but I just couldn't help myself anymore. Why am I so weak to fine ass men, lawd help me!
Unsurprisingly, this was a great game! Despite being incomplete and in-progress this game quenches thirst wielding its diverse cast of characters and unique scenarios. At the helm of the story, the main character is charming, relatable, and magnetic (I can see why all these guys are lining up for him). The CGs are all top notch paired with writing that flows naturally from scene to scene avoiding jarring moments for its players/audience. With further development, possibly music and polishing of current in-game mechanics this can cement itself as an iconic gay game!
Thank you FreshmenVN for continuing to develop this game!
Two questions though, I am immediately charmed by Matt and Connor's unique synergy. I can't help but envision them as my canon ship in the game. I believe the slow-burning tension is what you intend between them but if I may ask if there is any upcoming scenes between them in the rest following updates? As a follow up, will every character be romanceable or are there some that are just going to stay as hook-up option?
Again, thank you so much for this game! Lots of love and hoping for a smooth development on your end.
Thank you so much for the compliments! I'm glad the guys were able to lure you in 😉
It'll be a long while before the game is 100% complete, so I'm writing & releasing the game episodically. Each new story update will have a significant amount of content moving the storylines along. I'm working to quicken the pace so we won't have to wait as long to find out what happens next!
Matt & Connor's story is a little bit of a slow burn, but you'll definitely have plenty of opportunities to have scenes with him before it boils over into a full romance or hookup situation.
Right now I'm finishing up the club sequence that rounds out the last of the three options for ending day 2. But afterward will be a "morning after" update exploring what results from your choices. If you sleep at Matt's place - whether by passing out drunk or hooking up with Leo - you'll get some very interesting scenes with Matt when you both wake up. I'll just go ahead and spoil that he'll be in his underwear throughout 😉
Even if you didn't spend the night, you'll be able to follow up with him via text, tell each other about what you got up to, and arrange to hang out more. After this point the game is divided into weeks, and each week the main story guys will have some sort of hangout option.
Not all the guys are romanceable. There are 9 romanceable characters. 8 you've already met. You may have briefly met the 9th character if you played Asher's storyline, but that character will become more prominent in the next update I'm releasing. Matt won't technically be in this next update, but this 9th character - Griffin - has some interesting ties to Matt and you can unlock a bunch of new, very revealing Matt CGs by hanging with him.
All of the guys who got title cards introducing them are considered main characters to some degree and will have storylines to follow throughout the game. The ones who aren't romanceable are able to be hooked up with. I may turn one or two of them into romance options as I write, but I don't know for sure yet.
Lastly, there are a bunch of side characters in this game who aren't romanceable and won't have detailed storylines but who may end up with their own non-canon hookup scenario. Basically, as you meet new guys, some will unlock a hookup scenario on the main menu - that's what the "coming soon" Grind'm feature is. I plan to drop one new Grind'm hookup between each story update to tide us over until the main stories continue on.
Thank you so much for the explanation! Keep up the good work :>>