This new chapter turned out to be very interesting. The variations on how Connor feels about a certain guy and what his plans are make for both a very sweet and... very slutty. The option that he wants to have sex with all guys made me laugh, although I understand him, such a concentration of very different but handsome guys is very stressful.
To be honest, I was a little frustrated that in our morning conversation with Evan, we couldn't clearly articulate and separate how we felt about the situation with Julian and how we felt about Evan and the night we'd spent with him. We can either say that we enjoyed the whole thing, or we can go into a panic attack and regret agreeing to have sex on principle. It would be ideal if the dialog had the option to clearly say that Julian is an asshole and let him go to hell, but at the same time say that we are very grateful to Evan for the night we spent with him and that everything was great with him.
The flow of the plot with Matt clearly hints that an easier path awaits us if Connor just wants to convince him to have sex without commitment. Matt really is so damn hot that I'm willing to go the casual sex route at first and then fast-forward to the romance line.
Griffin... Oh Griffin, there is an aura of both incredible, dark attraction and deadly danger emanating from this guy, if this story wasn't totally worldly I'd bet my yearly salary that he's a vampire, werewolf or secret main villain))))). Of all the guys in existence, the true favorites for me are Evan and Griffin. I would love to see what Evan, with all his intuition, sense of vibe and aura, has to say about Griffin. I'd even like to come out for a romantic ending with just those two. I think Evan and Griffin have similar secret sides: they've been betrayed, abandoned, unloved. And Evan became obsessed with auras and vibrations to anticipate people's desires and moods to gain their approval and favor, while Griffin became embittered, turned to the dark side.... If I may say so. Though it's clear that this is only a general judgment, and their secret sides have many unique personalities.
A lot of interesting thoughts! You seem to be confusing Evan (short curly haired guy) with Owen (buff redhead) though.
The way that convo with Owen is written does let you decide how you feel about your experiences with Owen and Julian separately. I'll take another look at how it's presented to see if there's a way to make it clearer that's what's happening.
Oh, perhaps it's a translator's problem, but I mean Owen specifically. (Yes, indeed, translator problems, he's mistranslating the name.) Well, I'll clarify in future comments that I mean the guy in the see-through shirts.)
Will some routes be harder to achieve/get the good ending of than other routes ? By that I'm talking about if a specific guy will be harder to get into a romantic relationship with than the other pursuable guys. And if that's the case who would you say is the easiest and the hardest LI to get into a romantic relationship with ?
I don't plan to make it super hard to romance someone, you just need to invest a little time in them by hanging out and making choices that endear you to them. Some do have certain prerequisites before it'll become an option. For instance, Alex has a specific thing you must do before he'll be open to more than just sex, but it's very easy and can be done the first time you meet him.
Easiest to romance, probably Matt even though it's a slow burn to get there. Most difficult, maybe Asher, Dominic, or Griffin.
It is! You earn an extra love point from him if you try to kiss instead of just saying goodbye. But points are less important than reaching milestone events—getting walked home is an event that automatically assigns you a "mutual romantic attraction" status no matter what the points are. If a milestone isn't reached, the attraction status is based on certain point thresholds that are very easy to exceed this early in the game.
For Asher specifically, I don't really hide when he's not feeling a choice you made. I'll write a relationship guide eventually, but for him the main thing to keep in mind is he isn't interested in fame and likes when someone takes a personal interest in him versus a blatantly sexual interest. A kiss after a walk home is chaste enough to not count as blatantly sexual 🙂
Not in this update, but there will be in the future for sure. I have a big planning document for hookups, and one part of that is a matrix of which guys have enough of a connection to be involved in a threesome.
That's just for sex, though, there won't be any throuples or anything. I'm not opposed to it, it's just the level of complexity to make it happen would be too much to handle in an already complex game.
There is a potential sexual encounter with Matt in the new update, but not a full sex scene yet. The next story update will let you take that relationship even further.
Well, finally we will be able to see the continuation of the story. I don't lay out my future on tarot cards as often as I check the page of this game.
Hey there, yes it got pushed back. I sequestered myself the past few weeks to focus solely on its completion, and it's just about done. I can't give a specific release window at the time I'm writing this, but I should be able to soon.
It's not in the current free release, but if you're playing the Morning After Update dev build that I posted on Patreon, go to the frat party, watch/play spin the bottle, then choose to talk to Evan after. That'll lead to the choice to watch over him.
That isn't in the free version of the game yet, but the update I'm close to releasing has some good Will stuff waiting for you. He has the most CGs of any character in the update, in fact.
I will say it's not a sex scene, I don't want to be misleading, but as far as "teases" go, it gets pretty explicit. It actually ended up with a lot more hands-on nakedness than I originally planned...
Early access for the next story update should be sometime this upcoming week barring anything unexpected preventing that. I'm aiming for Monday, but it will likely be later than that based on what I have left to do. I've pretty much taped my eyes open and am more caffeine than man at this point since I really want it done!
Hey there. I'm in the final stretch of finishing the new update. It'll be a year since the last release in a week, so I'm working very hard to get it done by then. As for why it took a whole year, I'll have some sort of postmortem post on here to discuss all that went into it, the challenges I faced, the solutions I came up with, and how I have planned out future updates with all this new knowledge in mind.
Huh, that's very strange. I went through the code and what it's saying is causing this error does not exist in it. Based on the screenshot size, it seems like you may be trying to play this on an Android device? If so, this game doesn't have an Android version, so that would be the problem. It's only supported on PC and Mac. If you are using the PC/Mac version and it's giving you this error, please let me know.
Hi! I absolutely love your game, and remembered that you said the free release would be in the beginning of november. I guess it's not the case anymore since the early release has not been published yet? Sorry to ask but I've been waiting for it for a year now and i'm sooooo eager to play it, thank you!
It's almost done, but I wasn't able to finish this month. It'll be a year since the last release in less than a month, and I'm determined to get this out before that date. So stay tuned!
The game doesn't have an official mobile version, and I have no idea how JoiPlay works, so this isn't something I can help with. I think there are some comments down below that have some info from other players, though?
Can you, in the next update lead to hook ups if you can get there or is that coming with all the next updates after this one that will come out for the game in the future? Like for example if you can already full on hook up with Leo in this update that is coming out.
The next update is a transition from what was already played to a new day, and since Connor has class to get to, he doesn't have time for a full hookup. But the update has lots and lots of really hot encounters that sets up the next round of full hookups and other sexual situations.
The update after this one will be the Grind'm hookup with Trevor, which of course has lots of sex. The update after that will primarily focus on Matt & Evan, with some Leo as well. It will definitely involve some sex, including the first time penetration becomes an option. I actually already wrote those scenes, and I think fans of those characters will really enjoy them.
There's not a ton of Leo content in the next update because I wanted to give more screen time and CGs to characters who didn't get a hookup scene. But I did make some updates to his art since I upgraded his character model, so there's that to look forward to. Here's one for you:
I find myself playing more often than I would like to admit and I just can't wait for the next update and more to come!! Think I'm most excited for the new scenes with Marco and Alex the most. Please keep working on this cause I am invested hardcore!!
I'm definitely still working on this 🙂 Marco has the most scenes in the upcoming update by virtue of being a character Connor always crosses paths with, so you'll definitely see more of him soon.
It's my job to make you conflicted, haha 😉 I won't tie you down for awhile, so you'll be able to keep hanging out with each of them until you decide who you like most.
I'm kind of a sucker for childhood romance, so I'm leaning more to Matt. Though I like Riley and Isaiah as well. So I would at least replay the game three times with three different guys once it's complete. Or maybe more. Because Julian also kiiinda pique my interest as of late... 😆
I do hope you give them all the same amount of attention though, in terms of writing. I'm sure having a lot of characters is not easy to work with...
When I write each storyline, I treat the character being focused on as if they're Connor's co-lead to make sure they get the attention they deserve. Their storylines all differ, so some will weave into the game at different times and in different ways, but I do think I pay the same amount of attention to each of the romance guys.
That's one of the reasons the upcoming update has taken so long. All the storylines converge at one point, and since they can vary so much based on choices, it involves a lot of writing and some complicated coding. But I think it's been worth the effort for the reactivity.
Take your time, no rush. I'm sure you would do everyone's characterization and storyline well. I'm curious where you're going to take the story. Can I assume you already figured out how the story would end for Connor and his friends/love interests? Sometimes in writing, we know how they start and end, but bringing them to that point is the challenge
I definitely have an overarching plan for the whole game, but I only get down to planning the specifics once I reach the part of the game I'm currently working on. I used to only write with everything planned out beat by beat, but I've since developed a hybrid style between that and just writing freeform. I'll often come up with details or ideas while I'm writing certain scenes that'll reshape some of what I have planned, so I like being flexible.
But that doesn't mean I don't know how to take the steps to bring the the stories from beginning to end. I've been writing professionally for many years, so I have a lot of experience with that. What is new to this project is basically writing alternate realities alongside each other, which has been the real challenge.
My biggest frustration is I can't write, make art, and code fast enough to get to all the scenes I really want everyone to see as quickly as I want. But as I've worked on this next update, I've been spending a lot of time adjusting my workflow to make future updates easier for me to create and faster to produce.
I was gonna write a post on here about that, actually, but I couldn't tell if anyone was all that interested, and it would also take time away from what I need to work on to complete the update, so I set that aside. But I may write that at some point as a sort of condensed version of all the posts I write on Patreon about the process and how I've adjusted it over time.
I just found the rarest bug I've ever encountered, I didn't even know it was possible. In this shot, the old sprite of Connor stays on screen, and the new one is put over it. I thought they all disappeared with every new slide...
Yeah that's pretty strange. Probably a remnant of the old way I coded Connor's expression changes. I have an entirely new way that's more streamlined and avoids this issue, so I'll be going back and fixing it in the older content sometime soon. I made a small edit to that part in the update I'm finishing now which should fix it in the meantime.
The next Grind'm scenario will be in the update following the Morning After Update, which is the update I'm finishing up now. The guy voted to be featured is Trevor, NC17's twin brother.
Sim, você poderá aceitar a proposta dele no dia seguinte na Atualização da Manhã Seguinte. A atualização da história depois disso incluirá essa seção com Evan. (Estou usando o Google Translate, peço desculpas por quaisquer erros!) *** Yes, you will be able to accept his proposal the next day in the Morning After Update. The story update after that will include that section with Evan.
Thanks for your hard work on this game! I'm really enjoying the great CG and writing so far. Got a question about updating the game- whenever you release new content, is there an updater in the game itself? Or if it involves manual file replacements, are there instructions how to do it?
Also, you mentioned being a pro writer who wants to create anonymously, which I get means you can't share what other stuff you write. But anything you can recommend?
Hey there, I'm glad you've been enjoying it so far 🙂 Each download is the complete game, so all you need to do is delete the old folder containing the previous version of the game, then launch the game from the new download. All your saves and unlocked images are in another location on your computer, so they'll still pop up in the new version when you launch it.
There's also the Itch.io desktop app you could use to just update without needing to delete anything. They have info on it here: https://itch.io/app
As for recommendations, the related games link at the top of my game's main page brings up some good options. Coming Out on Top was a big influence on this game, and it was Summer Vacation that inspired me to try my hand at making a VN myself.
Giving book recommendations from the previous genres I wrote in would be too big a hint as to my actual identity, so I'll have to be coy about what I'd rec related to those 😉
There is no audio in the game yet. I want to add SFX/music at some point, but it was put on the backburner because at the time I looked into it, I couldn't find a source of royalty-free sounds/music that allows its tracks to be used in an adult entertainment product.
After see Dominic rework well, I'm going to be VERY honest, I understand the need to remake Dominic more than any other, I'm a long-time fan who's been looking forward to this game since my friend introduced me to, unfortunately the first negative aspect in general would be the fact that I won't be able to have my romantic ending with everyone I'm interested in, so the game having so many options and half of them being just One Night Stands is quite "lame" in itself, even because the patreon content gallery already exists outside the game and have a good amount of action, but back to my point, Dominic and the feelings we've both always had for him, He's not a "digestible" kind of character and don't get me wrong, the feeling has always been exclusively "why are you there?" on him with the likely possibility of him being one of the romantic ones since his 'label/tag' is literally being the straightest guy in the cast, and I must say his construction in this part is simply "hetero beyond measure", while other games that have this same premise do something calmer and less 'problematic', this character (and the little I explored of him because I didn't feel the slightest desire compared to the rest), didn't please, besides the main point in a game like this, while the entire cast was already exceptionally handsome and well made for something made in daz3d (considering your experience now vs before) Dominic only seemed like those bad and poorly rendered secondary characters with very little appeal because not even his personality saved him, the feeling of thinking that he could "take the place" of Will, Tomas or even Owen as a romance option terrifies me (even though I don't have only them as likeable options) which makes me want to not pay/wait to see until the big reveal of who will be or not (because who knows how long it will take to get at a romance point) he's still not my favorite, but I think he will be better for being on the same level as the other characters and new players would prob like him more after the update
Hey there. Yeah, part of the reason I redesigned Dominic was to make him more visually appealing, but I also did it to give him a look more like I was originally trying to achieve as well as use a different generation of figure that would give me access to more assets I can use with him.
You don't need to worry about Owen - he is romanceable.
Dominic isn't taking up anyone's spot because every character was designed from the ground up to play a specific role. If he wasn't there, it doesn't mean Will would get a romance, it just means either there'd be one less romance or there would be an entirely different character who was created specifically to cover the archetype.
It seems you're not sure which guys have a romance, so I'll clear that up for you. The 10 romanceable guys are: Alex, Asher, Dominic, Evan, Griffin, Isaiah, Marco, Matt, Owen, and Riley. Only 6 main characters have a story that won't lead to a romance: Julian, Leo, Mafia, NC17, Tomas, and Will.
But just because those last 6 won't lead to a romance, it doesn't mean they will just be one-night stands with no story. The only guys who are purely hookup characters are the ones with a Grind'm scenario.
Hi after Matts hangouts I'm missing some CGS but the game ends there saying to be continued... So is there a way to get those CGS or are they there for a future update?
I tried using it but I never get to day "3" (Morning After) Story, After the Hangout event it ends there but I'm still missing CG 13 to 22, meaning I don't get the morning after event of the Story
You might be missing the ones you get from an alternate path. If you haven't gone to the club and hung out with the bartender, Griffin, he unlocks a bunch of Matt CGs.
Senior & Graduate patrons have access to the early dev build of the Morning After Update. When it's entirely finished and goes into early access, Juniors, Seniors, & Graduates get it 4 weeks early, and Sophomores 3 weeks early.
One of THE BEST visual novels i've ever played!! its amazing how many stroy lines there are already and we are still in act 1! you can see how much love and pasion went into developing this! Cant wait to continue the story!
So sorry I missed this - I didn't get a notification for some reason. Thank you so much, I'm glad you're enjoying it! Handling all the story threads can be very complicated, which is part of why the next update is taking so long - it follows up on every ending and all the variant choices that led up to them. But I'm pretty close to done with the part that references all the events, and I think the amount of reactivity will have been worth the effort 🙂
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Does anyone know how to unlock CGs 42, 43 and 44 for Marco?
Just answered this for you on Patreon 🙂
I love the story i can't wait for the next update
Thank you! The newest update will be posted here in a little over two weeks.
awesome i can't waits but there are three I wantt to ask?
1. How to have it with Thomas
2. Is there a guide to introduce to new character?
3. For a Grind'm hookup scenarios are u going to add more character?
sorry for asking this much i just got hype.
Is riley Wasian??
No, but Griffin is assuming you mean biracial with a white parent and an Asian parent.
What race is Riley then?
He has white European heritage, Italian and Spanish.
This new chapter turned out to be very interesting. The variations on how Connor feels about a certain guy and what his plans are make for both a very sweet and... very slutty. The option that he wants to have sex with all guys made me laugh, although I understand him, such a concentration of very different but handsome guys is very stressful.
To be honest, I was a little frustrated that in our morning conversation with Evan, we couldn't clearly articulate and separate how we felt about the situation with Julian and how we felt about Evan and the night we'd spent with him. We can either say that we enjoyed the whole thing, or we can go into a panic attack and regret agreeing to have sex on principle. It would be ideal if the dialog had the option to clearly say that Julian is an asshole and let him go to hell, but at the same time say that we are very grateful to Evan for the night we spent with him and that everything was great with him.
The flow of the plot with Matt clearly hints that an easier path awaits us if Connor just wants to convince him to have sex without commitment. Matt really is so damn hot that I'm willing to go the casual sex route at first and then fast-forward to the romance line.
Griffin... Oh Griffin, there is an aura of both incredible, dark attraction and deadly danger emanating from this guy, if this story wasn't totally worldly I'd bet my yearly salary that he's a vampire, werewolf or secret main villain))))). Of all the guys in existence, the true favorites for me are Evan and Griffin. I would love to see what Evan, with all his intuition, sense of vibe and aura, has to say about Griffin. I'd even like to come out for a romantic ending with just those two. I think Evan and Griffin have similar secret sides: they've been betrayed, abandoned, unloved. And Evan became obsessed with auras and vibrations to anticipate people's desires and moods to gain their approval and favor, while Griffin became embittered, turned to the dark side.... If I may say so. Though it's clear that this is only a general judgment, and their secret sides have many unique personalities.
A lot of interesting thoughts! You seem to be confusing Evan (short curly haired guy) with Owen (buff redhead) though.
The way that convo with Owen is written does let you decide how you feel about your experiences with Owen and Julian separately. I'll take another look at how it's presented to see if there's a way to make it clearer that's what's happening.
Oh, perhaps it's a translator's problem, but I mean Owen specifically. (Yes, indeed, translator problems, he's mistranslating the name.) Well, I'll clarify in future comments that I mean the guy in the see-through shirts.)
Will some routes be harder to achieve/get the good ending of than other routes ? By that I'm talking about if a specific guy will be harder to get into a romantic relationship with than the other pursuable guys. And if that's the case who would you say is the easiest and the hardest LI to get into a romantic relationship with ?
I don't plan to make it super hard to romance someone, you just need to invest a little time in them by hanging out and making choices that endear you to them. Some do have certain prerequisites before it'll become an option. For instance, Alex has a specific thing you must do before he'll be open to more than just sex, but it's very easy and can be done the first time you meet him.
Easiest to romance, probably Matt even though it's a slow burn to get there. Most difficult, maybe Asher, Dominic, or Griffin.
Asher is really complicated from the very beginning). I still can't figure out if it's worth trying to kiss him goodbye, or not?
It is! You earn an extra love point from him if you try to kiss instead of just saying goodbye. But points are less important than reaching milestone events—getting walked home is an event that automatically assigns you a "mutual romantic attraction" status no matter what the points are. If a milestone isn't reached, the attraction status is based on certain point thresholds that are very easy to exceed this early in the game.
For Asher specifically, I don't really hide when he's not feeling a choice you made. I'll write a relationship guide eventually, but for him the main thing to keep in mind is he isn't interested in fame and likes when someone takes a personal interest in him versus a blatantly sexual interest. A kiss after a walk home is chaste enough to not count as blatantly sexual 🙂
Any poly or group fun? Orgy or gangbang...etc.
Not in this update, but there will be in the future for sure. I have a big planning document for hookups, and one part of that is a matrix of which guys have enough of a connection to be involved in a threesome.
That's just for sex, though, there won't be any throuples or anything. I'm not opposed to it, it's just the level of complexity to make it happen would be too much to handle in an already complex game.
Good to know, thanks. Have a big thing for frat bros having their way with someone. ;P
That's definitely a scenario I have written down as a possibility haha
Oooo. Can't wait.
What a hot boys.. <3 I'm good girl, you guys can do your stuff i will just sit and watch.. mmmmm... so hot.. <3
To see the sex with Matt
Patreon sponsored me but I can't see the sex scene. Did I play it wrong?
There is a potential sexual encounter with Matt in the new update, but not a full sex scene yet. The next story update will let you take that relationship even further.
When will the update be released?
It's in early access now on Patreon and will be posted here as a free release on 7 January.
Oh, I meant an update that included a sex scene with Matt.
Gotcha. I don't know when it will release yet. The next update will be for a new Grind'm scenario, and the story update with Matt will be after that.
when is the release :(
Early access will start sometime within the next 48 hours. I'll post the release schedule on here once it's out.
We are so close! I'm so excited!
Well, finally we will be able to see the continuation of the story. I don't lay out my future on tarot cards as often as I check the page of this game.
Are there updates on pateron? Cuz if so Ill happily pa
Not yet, but there will be soon. I'll make a post on here when it's released.
when is the update coming i really cant wai
Innit....
At the time I'm writing this, I don't know the timeframe of its release, but I'm very close to done. I should have more news soon.
I'm just waiting for this game to be released on Android 0_0
Is the Patreon member update still supposed to come out this weekend? Or is it pushed back? And if so when will it likely be planned to come out now?
Hey there, yes it got pushed back. I sequestered myself the past few weeks to focus solely on its completion, and it's just about done. I can't give a specific release window at the time I'm writing this, but I should be able to soon.
It's not in the current free release, but if you're playing the Morning After Update dev build that I posted on Patreon, go to the frat party, watch/play spin the bottle, then choose to talk to Evan after. That'll lead to the choice to watch over him.
how do i get to sex with the prof? i think his name is will
That isn't in the free version of the game yet, but the update I'm close to releasing has some good Will stuff waiting for you. He has the most CGs of any character in the update, in fact.
I will say it's not a sex scene, I don't want to be misleading, but as far as "teases" go, it gets pretty explicit. It actually ended up with a lot more hands-on nakedness than I originally planned...
When will the newest pre-release for patrons be out? Or is the last one the final early one and we just have to wait for the full release?
Early access for the next story update should be sometime this upcoming week barring anything unexpected preventing that. I'm aiming for Monday, but it will likely be later than that based on what I have left to do. I've pretty much taped my eyes open and am more caffeine than man at this point since I really want it done!
soooo excited!!
Hey ! Any news ? Thank you for that beautiful game ! <3
Hey there. I'm in the final stretch of finishing the new update. It'll be a year since the last release in a week, so I'm working very hard to get it done by then. As for why it took a whole year, I'll have some sort of postmortem post on here to discuss all that went into it, the challenges I faced, the solutions I came up with, and how I have planned out future updates with all this new knowledge in mind.
hi, I can't play, it gives me this error
Huh, that's very strange. I went through the code and what it's saying is causing this error does not exist in it. Based on the screenshot size, it seems like you may be trying to play this on an Android device? If so, this game doesn't have an Android version, so that would be the problem. It's only supported on PC and Mac. If you are using the PC/Mac version and it's giving you this error, please let me know.
Hi! I absolutely love your game, and remembered that you said the free release would be in the beginning of november. I guess it's not the case anymore since the early release has not been published yet? Sorry to ask but I've been waiting for it for a year now and i'm sooooo eager to play it, thank you!
It's almost done, but I wasn't able to finish this month. It'll be a year since the last release in less than a month, and I'm determined to get this out before that date. So stay tuned!
Why this game isn't working on joyplay?
The game doesn't have an official mobile version, and I have no idea how JoiPlay works, so this isn't something I can help with. I think there are some comments down below that have some info from other players, though?
Try Win Emulator, you can play PC games on that emu but make sure you have good device with decent Chipset
Im gonna take your boxers of with my teeth if you release android version <3
Can you, in the next update lead to hook ups if you can get there or is that coming with all the next updates after this one that will come out for the game in the future? Like for example if you can already full on hook up with Leo in this update that is coming out.
The next update is a transition from what was already played to a new day, and since Connor has class to get to, he doesn't have time for a full hookup. But the update has lots and lots of really hot encounters that sets up the next round of full hookups and other sexual situations.
The update after this one will be the Grind'm hookup with Trevor, which of course has lots of sex. The update after that will primarily focus on Matt & Evan, with some Leo as well. It will definitely involve some sex, including the first time penetration becomes an option. I actually already wrote those scenes, and I think fans of those characters will really enjoy them.
There's not a ton of Leo content in the next update because I wanted to give more screen time and CGs to characters who didn't get a hookup scene. But I did make some updates to his art since I upgraded his character model, so there's that to look forward to. Here's one for you:
When android release
Mobile when do you release 😭
Yess plss mobile version :(
I find myself playing more often than I would like to admit and I just can't wait for the next update and more to come!! Think I'm most excited for the new scenes with Marco and Alex the most. Please keep working on this cause I am invested hardcore!!
I'm definitely still working on this 🙂 Marco has the most scenes in the upcoming update by virtue of being a character Connor always crosses paths with, so you'll definitely see more of him soon.
I enjoy the demo so far. Can't decide who I like more between Riley, Matt, and Isaiah though. They're all so kind, sexy, and sweet~
It's my job to make you conflicted, haha 😉 I won't tie you down for awhile, so you'll be able to keep hanging out with each of them until you decide who you like most.
I'm kind of a sucker for childhood romance, so I'm leaning more to Matt. Though I like Riley and Isaiah as well. So I would at least replay the game three times with three different guys once it's complete. Or maybe more. Because Julian also kiiinda pique my interest as of late... 😆
I do hope you give them all the same amount of attention though, in terms of writing. I'm sure having a lot of characters is not easy to work with...
When I write each storyline, I treat the character being focused on as if they're Connor's co-lead to make sure they get the attention they deserve. Their storylines all differ, so some will weave into the game at different times and in different ways, but I do think I pay the same amount of attention to each of the romance guys.
That's one of the reasons the upcoming update has taken so long. All the storylines converge at one point, and since they can vary so much based on choices, it involves a lot of writing and some complicated coding. But I think it's been worth the effort for the reactivity.
Take your time, no rush. I'm sure you would do everyone's characterization and storyline well. I'm curious where you're going to take the story. Can I assume you already figured out how the story would end for Connor and his friends/love interests? Sometimes in writing, we know how they start and end, but bringing them to that point is the challenge
I definitely have an overarching plan for the whole game, but I only get down to planning the specifics once I reach the part of the game I'm currently working on. I used to only write with everything planned out beat by beat, but I've since developed a hybrid style between that and just writing freeform. I'll often come up with details or ideas while I'm writing certain scenes that'll reshape some of what I have planned, so I like being flexible.
But that doesn't mean I don't know how to take the steps to bring the the stories from beginning to end. I've been writing professionally for many years, so I have a lot of experience with that. What is new to this project is basically writing alternate realities alongside each other, which has been the real challenge.
My biggest frustration is I can't write, make art, and code fast enough to get to all the scenes I really want everyone to see as quickly as I want. But as I've worked on this next update, I've been spending a lot of time adjusting my workflow to make future updates easier for me to create and faster to produce.
I was gonna write a post on here about that, actually, but I couldn't tell if anyone was all that interested, and it would also take time away from what I need to work on to complete the update, so I set that aside. But I may write that at some point as a sort of condensed version of all the posts I write on Patreon about the process and how I've adjusted it over time.
Could you make an android version of downloading because I can't with zipped files :)
I plan to do an Android version at some point, but I don't know when I'll be able to. Probably not anytime soon, unfortunately.
I just found the rarest bug I've ever encountered, I didn't even know it was possible. In this shot, the old sprite of Connor stays on screen, and the new one is put over it. I thought they all disappeared with every new slide...
Yeah that's pretty strange. Probably a remnant of the old way I coded Connor's expression changes. I have an entirely new way that's more streamlined and avoids this issue, so I'll be going back and fixing it in the older content sometime soon. I made a small edit to that part in the update I'm finishing now which should fix it in the meantime.
Is there a walkthrough to get all of the spicy scenes so far?
I haven't had a chance to write an official one yet, but there is an unofficial one here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o6VFK12N3ZITRa6Ln3ZJA0IBT5E6vHG2QCVBebPK...
There's also the fan wiki:
https://freshmenvn.fandom.com/wiki/Freshmen:_Physical_Education_Wiki
If there are any specific scenes/CGs you can't find after checking those, you can let me know which ones and I can give you steps to find them.
Oh my god, you are a life saver! Thank you!
When are we getting a new character added to Grind'm? And do we already know who that character will be?
The next Grind'm scenario will be in the update following the Morning After Update, which is the update I'm finishing up now. The guy voted to be featured is Trevor, NC17's twin brother.
when will new version update here??
PLZ!
No firm date yet. Hopefully early access soon, then the free update in November.
Sim, você poderá aceitar a proposta dele no dia seguinte na Atualização da Manhã Seguinte. A atualização da história depois disso incluirá essa seção com Evan. (Estou usando o Google Translate, peço desculpas por quaisquer erros!)
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Yes, you will be able to accept his proposal the next day in the Morning After Update. The story update after that will include that section with Evan.
Thanks for your hard work on this game! I'm really enjoying the great CG and writing so far. Got a question about updating the game- whenever you release new content, is there an updater in the game itself? Or if it involves manual file replacements, are there instructions how to do it?
Also, you mentioned being a pro writer who wants to create anonymously, which I get means you can't share what other stuff you write. But anything you can recommend?
Hey there, I'm glad you've been enjoying it so far 🙂 Each download is the complete game, so all you need to do is delete the old folder containing the previous version of the game, then launch the game from the new download. All your saves and unlocked images are in another location on your computer, so they'll still pop up in the new version when you launch it.
There's also the Itch.io desktop app you could use to just update without needing to delete anything. They have info on it here: https://itch.io/app
As for recommendations, the related games link at the top of my game's main page brings up some good options. Coming Out on Top was a big influence on this game, and it was Summer Vacation that inspired me to try my hand at making a VN myself.
Giving book recommendations from the previous genres I wrote in would be too big a hint as to my actual identity, so I'll have to be coy about what I'd rec related to those 😉
I keep forgetting, but is there a discord for this VN by chance? I know I asked on twitter like years ago lol
No, I don't have a Discord yet, mostly because I don't really have time to moderate one. It's something I'd like to set up down the line, though.
hey freshmen,
is this supposed to be a silent game? are sounds being added at a later date?
There is no audio in the game yet. I want to add SFX/music at some point, but it was put on the backburner because at the time I looked into it, I couldn't find a source of royalty-free sounds/music that allows its tracks to be used in an adult entertainment product.
I suppose that's only because they don't know how adorable this game is
After see Dominic rework well, I'm going to be VERY honest, I understand the need to remake Dominic more than any other, I'm a long-time fan who's been looking forward to this game since my friend introduced me to, unfortunately the first negative aspect in general would be the fact that I won't be able to have my romantic ending with everyone I'm interested in, so the game having so many options and half of them being just One Night Stands is quite "lame" in itself, even because the patreon content gallery already exists outside the game and have a good amount of action, but back to my point, Dominic and the feelings we've both always had for him, He's not a "digestible" kind of character and don't get me wrong, the feeling has always been exclusively "why are you there?" on him with the likely possibility of him being one of the romantic ones since his 'label/tag' is literally being the straightest guy in the cast, and I must say his construction in this part is simply "hetero beyond measure", while other games that have this same premise do something calmer and less 'problematic', this character (and the little I explored of him because I didn't feel the slightest desire compared to the rest), didn't please, besides the main point in a game like this, while the entire cast was already exceptionally handsome and well made for something made in daz3d (considering your experience now vs before) Dominic only seemed like those bad and poorly rendered secondary characters with very little appeal because not even his personality saved him, the feeling of thinking that he could "take the place" of Will, Tomas or even Owen as a romance option terrifies me (even though I don't have only them as likeable options) which makes me want to not pay/wait to see until the big reveal of who will be or not (because who knows how long it will take to get at a romance point) he's still not my favorite, but I think he will be better for being on the same level as the other characters and new players would prob like him more after the update
Hey there. Yeah, part of the reason I redesigned Dominic was to make him more visually appealing, but I also did it to give him a look more like I was originally trying to achieve as well as use a different generation of figure that would give me access to more assets I can use with him.
You don't need to worry about Owen - he is romanceable.
Dominic isn't taking up anyone's spot because every character was designed from the ground up to play a specific role. If he wasn't there, it doesn't mean Will would get a romance, it just means either there'd be one less romance or there would be an entirely different character who was created specifically to cover the archetype.
It seems you're not sure which guys have a romance, so I'll clear that up for you. The 10 romanceable guys are: Alex, Asher, Dominic, Evan, Griffin, Isaiah, Marco, Matt, Owen, and Riley. Only 6 main characters have a story that won't lead to a romance: Julian, Leo, Mafia, NC17, Tomas, and Will.
But just because those last 6 won't lead to a romance, it doesn't mean they will just be one-night stands with no story. The only guys who are purely hookup characters are the ones with a Grind'm scenario.
please android version!!😿
Hi after Matts hangouts I'm missing some CGS but the game ends there saying to be continued... So is there a way to get those CGS or are they there for a future update?
You can check this link for current available scenario
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o6VFK12N3ZITRa6Ln3ZJA0IBT5E6vHG2QCVBebPK...
I tried using it but I never get to day "3" (Morning After) Story, After the Hangout event it ends there but I'm still missing CG 13 to 22, meaning I don't get the morning after event of the Story
The Morning After Update hasn't been released yet, so the CGs coming in that update aren't in the version of the game you're playing.
The ones you're missing can be found by doing the following:
You might be missing the ones you get from an alternate path. If you haven't gone to the club and hung out with the bartender, Griffin, he unlocks a bunch of Matt CGs.
Looks great! Just to confirm, from which subsccription is the morning after available
Senior & Graduate patrons have access to the early dev build of the Morning After Update. When it's entirely finished and goes into early access, Juniors, Seniors, & Graduates get it 4 weeks early, and Sophomores 3 weeks early.
One of THE BEST visual novels i've ever played!!
its amazing how many stroy lines there are already and we are still in act 1! you can see how much love and pasion went into developing this!
Cant wait to continue the story!
So sorry I missed this - I didn't get a notification for some reason. Thank you so much, I'm glad you're enjoying it! Handling all the story threads can be very complicated, which is part of why the next update is taking so long - it follows up on every ending and all the variant choices that led up to them. But I'm pretty close to done with the part that references all the events, and I think the amount of reactivity will have been worth the effort 🙂